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[SaPrOuZy]

hello there,
is there a way for the bot to know if its lagging, i have a script for botnet
floods running perfectly, but sometimes if the bot is lagging it it messes up.
so i want to check if it is or not.
thanks.

[demond]

wrong forum dude

it's normal for eggdrop to be lagging during mass flood; the important thing is to not flood itself out of irc thereby losing ops, which could still happen even on modern ircds that have msg pace limits
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[SaPrOuZy]

what i meant is the bot thinks there's a flood because it's lagging
i was checking the logs of a chan from 2 different bots,
the one lagging had like 3 minutes packed in 1 minute

so what i have in mind is to if the bots catches a flood, it will perform the
protection, and then checks if it's lagging , if it is it removes the lock/bans

still didn't think deep into it, but a script to know if the bot is lagging will be usefull

[demond]

hmm that's actually nice idea, I'll think about incorporating something similar in xchannel.tcl
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[De Kus]

I wonder how to get the lag value from output in .status?

but what will you do if you notice the bot has lagged 60s and somone triggers a 10s flood? do you want to ignore the flood? it might have been really a flood, it might have not been. How will you determine?

PS: thats why I still believe in '/mode #chan +f 5:2' on networks that support it, the irc server knows usually better than the bot when 5 lines are beiing send within 2s .
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[demond]

you get the lag not by parsing .status but by pinging the server and measuring its response time

and I will probably have periodic lag checks; on mass flood, I won't issue any server commands if the average lag from previous minute or so has been unacceptable
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[demond]

pinging other servers is pointless since if you are lagged to your own server, you'll be lagged to all others anyway - you have only one connection to IRC in any given moment, and that connection is through the server you are on
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[demond]

hmm so you are proposing a complex lag tracking system but you are not elaborating on details

obviously, you'll need to know the structure of the network, i.e. which servers your server connects to (that can be obtained by analyzing LINKS output); and you will have to come up with some algorithm for taking the ultimate decision whether to take action or not; however, that won't be easy since there can be all kind of scenarios; consider for example:

you are on server A, which connects to B, C and D; you have pinged B, C and D and detected no lag; however, D connects to E, and D is lagging to E, and most of your users are either on E or on servers behind E; so E splits, rejoins, and you take action because your averaged lag measurement for the neighbouring servers didn't go above the trhreshold
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[SaPrOuZy]

i thought about parsing LINKS(to get the list of servers) and WHOIS (to know where the bot is connected)

what am actually checking if the server that the bot IS connected to is lagging or not. not other servers
because if it is then it could cause probs.

and also is not about splits/rejoins
it's about to know forexample : if the bot noticed 6 joins happened in 3 seconds it could be due to 3 possible reasons:
1- the is actually a flood
2- the bot it self is lagging
3- the server on which the bot is connected is lagging and suddenly received the packets and displayed them.

1 and 2 are taken care of, 3 remain to be completed.

hopefuly this clears up my thought more

[demond]

[SaPrOuZy]

a-

[demond]

so we are back to my previous post about complex lag tracking system and zillions scenarios
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